Saturday, March 17, 2007

Heidi's Endorsement: Andy Herod

Back to some other news: Mayor Davison made an "unexpected endorsement" yesterday in Tuesday's D8 race.

"Andy's long history of community service, extensive experience, and proven leadership make him the best choice for District 8 and has earned him my personal endorsement," Davison said in an official news release from Herod's campaign. "District 8 is fortunate to have a candidate with a proven track record who is ready to go to work. That candidate is Andy Herod."

As Blackfin noted yesterday, this would make sense seeing as "Hamilton = Doc Eldridge, State McCarter, Charlie Maddox crowd; Herod = the "cobbham elite" candidate."

So does this effect the race? Good or bad, for either Andy or David?

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

So, now that Andy is the progressive candidate of choice, and David is the States candidate of choice, how will they fare come Tuesday? Put on your pundit cap and make a prediction.

Anonymous said...

What does Cobbham elite mean?

Blackfin_Day said...

To be fair, I was being intentionally flippant

Anonymous said...

The nonprofits on Oconee Street who are seeking to sell their land with a special use permit are watching this very closely - Herod is expected to be against the permit, along with Heidi and Kelly Girtz. Hamilton is expected to be on the side of the nonprofits.

Anonymous said...

8:16 anonymous poster shows they know nothing about this issue or about land-use and zoning in ACC. The issue of Oconee St is not whether or not the non-profits can sell their land. It is not about the non-profits at all. It is about whether the developer who wants to buy the land will follow ACC zoning rules and regs. The rules say that the development has to have mixed use. The developer has refused to do this.

Anonymous ought to get his facts straight. This is about good development vs. bad development. Not non-profits.

I am also glad that anonymous seems to have mind-melded with both Hamilton and Herod so that they are able to tell the future. Maybe they could also give us next week's lottery numbers too.

Anonymous said...

An endorsement from the Mayor who got 2 out of every 3 votes cast in the runoff in District 8. It certainly won't hurt. I personally think that Herod was already going to win 55 to 45 so it might not help that much either.

Anonymous said...

(8:16 here)
ACTUALLY I am well aware of the Planning Commission's recommendations and the Commercial General zoning on the land. The sticking point is the requirement for retail space on the first floor, and the request was for a special use permit to waive that requirement. If you think that is 'good development,' you should take a look at all the empty retail space in similar mixed use developments around town. And also at the plats which are online at the Planning Commission's website.
And what I said was that was how Hamilton and Herod were "expected" to vote.
Asshole.

Anonymous said...

Without getting into the sniping and forecasting, I do agree with one comment... "If you think that is 'good development,' you should take a look at all the empty retail space in similar mixed use developments around town."

We have a nanny commission who are forcing this type of development down our throats... and it's beginning to crumble. It just isn't working. But they'll keep pushing because we keep giving them more votes among the 10 (11).

Anonymous said...

Ah, 8:16. Glad to see you are capable of maintaining a civil discussion ("asshole").

Jmac said...

You know, if you actually had some sort of moniker, you wouldn't have to rely on the whole time reference thing to identify one another.

Just saying ...

"If you think that is 'good development,' you should take a look at all the empty retail space in similar mixed use developments around town."

We have a nanny commission who are forcing this type of development down our throats... and it's beginning to crumble.


I know it's catchy to say 'nanny commission' but I don't see any validity in this particular assertion. That is, are you suggesting the actions of our current Mayor and Commission are forcing developers to build new properties rather than renovate existing ones? Because, if so, I think you're mistaken.

We've got a TDR program in the works, as well as a TAD program coming through. Those two tools appear to be just the beginning of a comprehensive push to encourage developers to renovate existing structures rather than build sprawling new ones.

Anonymous said...

So... back to the original post. Is this endorsement good for Andy? Either way, what are the predictions?

hillary said...

I don't think the endorsement makes a difference, in that it's not exactly a surprise. My guess is Herod squeezes out a victory.

Anonymous said...

Will the TDR program be affected by other regulation in the recieving zones? Will the recieving zones be only poor black neighborhoods driving people on fixed incomes from their houses? Will the TAD program even affect areas like ocnoee street or are such measures reserved to brown fields and industrial parks?

Adrian, are you out their?

Anonymous said...

Mixed use is a great idea but on Oconee Street? The building is not visible from Lexington Road and when you have retail space you want to be seen! I realize that is the way it is zoned and we open up a can of worms if we attempt to spot zone but with all the empty space at the other locations why would one choose to locate on Oconee Street? It is my understanding that the developer of the Boys & Girls Club property is keeping much of the acreage as greenspace and not builidng as many units as they could under the current zoning rules. I am sure they are afraid they will not find any tenants for the retail space. Should we take a big picture view or does a spot zone cause that much of a hassle?

Anonymous said...

Herod will win, 60-40.

Anonymous said...

David 48%, Andy 47%, States 5% (through a write-in campaign). Runoff necessary between David & Andy.

Anonymous said...

Though I think Andy Herod will win and probably win big, I had to laugh at the comment about States!

retired_cowboy said...

FWIW: Herod by 7 to 10 points. It will be close due to the "homer" factor. 8A will vote in larger numbers than the other precincts.

I like David a lot as a friend but the "States factor" and influence looms large.

Herod is a better choice based on relevant experience and that should be the deciding factor but, that's why they have the elections.

No telling how people will actually vote. I've been wrong before....

Anonymous said...

Relative experience? Andy has been with Green Acres/Crestwood longer than David has been Cedar Creek. And Andy has more FON experience. But I'm not sure those are really commissioner-preperatory activities per se.

And don't site the Planning Commission. One meeting does not a Planning Commissioner make.

Anonymous said...

Andy's been on the Planning Commission for months now and has attended lots of meetings. Perhaps you should get your facts straight before you post something.

The fact is, Andy has been building relationships with the current commissioners for years now and he will be far more effective than David at building coalitions and getting things done.

Anonymous said...

Ding Dong States is dead States is dead.

monticello_pres said...

That may be the most ridiculous post in the history of blogs, so congratulations. But if it makes you feel good to think that David was States' guy & Andy won despite the odds, then so be it. But you (anonymous 10:18) have a firm grasp on cluelessness. And your vindictiveness towards States is absurd.

Congrats to Andy. Congrats, also, to David. Each ran a good campaign and fought for what was important to them. The voters decided and we all now move forward with Andy representing the 8th Distict.

Anonymous said...

Agreed, congrats to both. District 8 couldn't have gone wrong with either man. I do seem to recall that monticello_pres was the person who said to me (on another local blog) that I must have a problem with math if I thought Cedar Creek would split fairly evenly. Precinct 8A was pretty close, although David did carry it. Almost all the votes in that precinct are from Cedar Creek. David would have had to carry it by a wide margin to make up for the difference in the other precincts. Congrats to Andy, and I hope David remains active in local politics.

Anonymous said...

Relax monticello_pres, the above anon poster was probably just kidding around. I mean its pretty obvious that person said it to be funny. States was good at staying in contact with folks, he just became ineffective on the commission.

Congrats to Andy and I hope he'll do well.

monticello_pres said...

Anon 11:03, I know. It's just a pathetic attempt at humor. And regardless, I do think Andy will do well as commissioner. He ran a nice campaign, as did David.

Anon 10:38, the discussion that I commented on previously was whether the number of signs in Cedar Creek was evenly split. They were not. On the route that I run (which is most every main street in CC), David had a 4-1 margin for homes. Andy had several homes with multiple signs. If you had other insight as to whether Cedar Creek "would split fairly evenly", that's a different subject. And, if so, your analysis obviously came true.

Andy and David had a lot to accomplish in a short time period, and I do believe the voters of the 8th had ample chance to learn about both men. To me, that's the success of the process. And it's now up to all of us to support Andy in his role on the commission.

Anonymous said...

I also walk through most of the major roads in CC every day, and there is no way David had a 4:1 advantage. Many of his homes also had multiple signs. I counted a couple of days after you statement, and it was maybe 3:2 at most. I think the results from 8A speak for themselves.

monticello_pres said...

So that my comeback isn't "nuh-uh", I'll stick to what we know to be true. You are absolutely correct about the results speaking for themselves. David needed to carry 8A by more than 50 votes (25%) and he didn't. So regardless of the signs he didn't have enough profit here to make up for deficiencies in 8B and 8C.