Thursday, June 01, 2006

Mail

Got my first political mailing of the season yesterday from Cagyle. Did everybody get one of these? Cause if not, I'm wondering what got me on his target list. It's certainly not my voting record.

Hey Chuck, are you gonna make a big media buy? I think you need to flood the Cobbham district with Greek-apologist pieces (oh, that's right, they're not in your district; I forgot).

I'm going to have a little project where I keep all the political mail I get this season and study it. Why? Well, I'm a dork. But there's always a small chance I may come up with something interesting to say on here as a result.

23 comments:

Ned said...

Seems like a good idea to me. 2 years from now it will be interesting to compare the mail with what the elected politicians are actually doing.

Chuck said...

You never have anything interesting to say on here - DDDYA.

I have indeed thought about sending my campaign literature to the Cobbham people, even though they're not in my district. I think that would be fun; actually I have two friends who really have just had twins, maybe I should get them to do door-to-door campaigning in that area.

Publius said...

Wow, politics of personal destruction.

Ah well, what can you expect? Seriously though, why would the thought of contacting voters outside your district even occur to you?

Every dollar you spend outside your district is a dollar you're not spending in the district, and a wasted opportunity to get your message out. So unless you're sitting on a couple-million dollar warchest, or hell, even if you are, it's a terrible idea.

See Chuck, stuff like that makes me wonder if you're actually running to govern, or if you're just a vanity candidate.

"maybe I should get them to do door-to-door campaigning in that area."
Or maybe you should've told the truth to the voters and the press.

Chuck said...

HAHA! It should have been obvious that I was not serious - of course I am not going to send mailings to people outside my district. I was just responding to Doubledawg's sarcastic comment with sarcasm of my own. Nothing wrong with that.

Anonymous said...

I don't know, Chuckles...you've already done some pretty stupid shit.

GP said...

If I hear Chuck talking about Cobbham one more time, I'm gonna shave my head, climb a tower, and start gunning down strangers. Seriously Chuck, you gotta get some new material.

rdturpin said...

Amen to that, GP. I'm on the tower with ya!

Chuck said...

I hear MasterCuts in the mall is having a special on total shaving.

I like to not only tease the Cobbham people, but also use them as an example of everything that is wrong with Athens. I'm certainly not saying that everyone in Cobbham is a Snobbham, but the association as a whole has presented itself in that light.

Chuck said...

Oh by the way - I was not the one who first mentioned Cobbham and Gomorrah in this thread; it was Doubledawg as I recall?

(also btw - I did not get a mailing from Cagle)

DoubleDawgDareYa said...

Hoho...nicely played, Chuckie (Cobbham and Gomorrah....Snobbhams...brilliant!)

But come on, man, it's DiDDY, not DDDYA (I know, there's no "i" anywhere in there, but what can I tell ya, it stuck a long time ago).

You're right, man, it is so terribly difficult to come up with good material on here. That's why we so love getting you involved Chuckie.

Have you ever seen Da Ali G Show? You know where the guy has politicians and such on for what they think is a real interview, but he just ends up asking silly questions meant only to produce laughs? Don't know what made me think of that....

Anyway, great to have you back Chuckie.

Chuck said...

Of course I've seen it, why do you think I play along as much as I do? I don't see why a political campaign cannot be fun too. Sure, it is a serious matter and I am out to win, but there is no reason I can't enjoy myself in the process. Why do you think I said I'd send my friends with twins out to campaign in the Cobbham neighborhood? :)

Politicians often take themselves too seriously anyway. They generally have hugely inflated egos - probably a side effect of spending too much time with the Cobbhamites, some of their traits start to rub off. I am not a politician - I'm just an ordinary citizen trying to stand up for what I think is right. I can be serious about serious matters that affect the community, but I also know when to put my ego aside and lighten up.

Jmac said...

Is it wise to base an entire campaign around - or at least publically state - one's personal disdain for an entire neighborhood?

Sort flies in the face of your whole reaching-out-to-others campaign rhetoric.

Just something to think about.

Patrick Armstrong said...

So, uhh, are there any other issues to deal with in Athens other than the plight of Greek life and the oppression by those tyrants up in Cobbham?

Back when I lived in the Classic City, we had housing issues; traffic problems; crimes; Clarke Central; not enough real jobs to support a 100K+ people MSA; pollution; drainage problems; plans for a commuter rail line to Atlanta.

Maybe that was just too far 'back in the day.'

Chuck said...

I never stated I disdained the entire neighborhood. In fact, if you were interested in being fair to me and not ridiculing me based on your own prejudices, you would notice that I said "I'm certainly not saying that [i]everyone[/i] in Cobbham is a Snobbham."

And the elitism, refusing to work together as one Athens, refusing to tolerate your neighbors, etc., are the EXAMPLES of what is wrong with Athens. (Notice I said EXAMPLES, Patrick - you are aware of the meaning of the word example, are you not?)

We are never going to tackle all of those problems unless we are able to stop fighting with each other and work together - with the long term residents and the student citizens working together. And that is going to involve some give and take on both sides. So when are we going to start seeing some "give" from the long term residents?

Patrick Armstrong said...

I am well aware of what an example is, Chuck. What concerns me is that the example is all that seems to be getting any ink. That's one reason I asked long ago, was the Cobbham stuff worth it to bring up?

It seems to have defined your campaign, from what I've read at least (which admittedly, isn't much). Long term residents and student citizens have long had a love-hate relationship in the Athens that I know. Fanning the flames doesn't seem to be the way to bring everyone to the table to work on some of the real issues.

Chuck said...

Very reasonable point Patrick. Let me explain the way I'm coming at this - and I promise not to use the "C" word.

As I see it, the relationship between the student citizens and the long term citizens is a threshold issue. When you go to fight any battle, the first thing you do is gather your troops - make sure you are all together and all united toward the same goal. You do NOT want to have your troops fighting amongst each other. That is a sure way to lose.

Both long term residents and student citizens are part of this community. They both can be very active foot soldiers in the war against poverty, for example. Fraternities and sororities, particularly, have a great deal to contribute in terms of helping the less fortunate. But in order to be effective, we all need to be united. Everyone needs to feel invested in this community, and then we will be able to be united toward the common goals that Patrick outlined.

But in order for the students to feel invested in this community, the long term residents in the community need to start treating them like human beings. And that means NOT stealing the property they just paid $750,000 for because the law said they were completely within their rights to move there. It does NOT mean calling the police on them "every time a peep is heard" as Commissioner Lynn suggested. (Unbearable noise is one thing, peeps are quite another.) It means give and take.

Can anyone describe any "give" that the long term residents have offered? I don't mean lip service proclamations from the Mayor, I mean real give and take. As I see it, they do nothing but "take take take take take" the benefits of having an active student population, and then "complain complain complain complain complain" about students.

Athens is taking on some major issues. You listed some of them above. And the only way we are ever going to make any progress toward solving those problems is if everyone here, student citizens and long term citizens alike, are invested in this community and are working together. That's my whole point.

We are all on the same page here on these issues - so as I see it, the first step is to STOP the war between student citizens and long term people, and instead start combating poverty and these other serious issues.

Anonymous said...

does anybody else think that Chuck might set a new record for the fewest number of votes ever received by a commision candidate?

andyrusk said...

Ahem... back to the political mailings topic. Word on the street is that Taylor has swiped a page from the green party playbook and will be going door to door with a staff of 600. In fact, there's no place for postage on his flyers.

Dawg Corleone said...

Heidi qualifies.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Al - no I think that honor would belong to your wife's sad little re-election campaign. Oh right, she's running for Mayor. My bad.

Fishplate said...

(tap, tap, tap)

This thing on?

hillary said...

How about merely some kind of open thread about qualifiers for local offices?

Anonymous said...

Heidi will be re-elected.