tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post113034021798385648..comments2023-10-11T05:17:09.763-04:00Comments on Athens Politics: MiscellanyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130799929491669202005-10-31T18:05:00.000-05:002005-10-31T18:05:00.000-05:00cool, Hillary... I'm not saying I never heard it e...cool, Hillary... I'm not saying I never heard it either. I guess some vestige of my past life as a journalist makes me quiver anxiously at any well... never mind. I agree with Publius, if it's documented in any way, Cathy dearest and Sonny "let me fly that helicopter" Perdue will wring it out in the coming days. I bet Cathy will hope that Sonny does it instead of her, she really doesn't want to alienate all his supporters in the event she does win the primary. Has anyone been recieving any email from his campaign/website, brother, uncle sister or Mommy? I have contacted them several times to ask that they add me to their contact list, and I haven't recieved a single email yet. But I'm getting bombarded by Cathy. This worries me a great deal. <BR/><BR/>aquariusrizingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130768838767824182005-10-31T09:27:00.000-05:002005-10-31T09:27:00.000-05:00I'vew heard that too. I've always just assumed th...I'vew heard that too. I've always just assumed that it's kind of the worst-kept secret in Georgia politics. Everybody knows it but no one talks about it.<BR/><BR/>In any event, as far as I know, and barring proof positive to the contrary, I'm going to assume that that's in his past, and therefore not particularly relevant, although you can bet the opposition (whether it be Cathy or the gubner) are going to try to make it relevant.<BR/><BR/>One other thought, some of the strongest people I know are people who have worked through crap like this and beaten it.Cufflink Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14800684128912206226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130767499794443552005-10-31T09:04:00.000-05:002005-10-31T09:04:00.000-05:00that speculation about Mark T. is really beneath y...<I>that speculation about Mark T. is really beneath you. unless you have proof of that, it's well...hm, disappointing.</I><BR/><BR/>Hey now. I didn't just pull it out of thin air. I do have a friend who worked for him between 5 and 10 years ago. I also have no proof. But I'm also _also_ not saying it's necessarily a reason to vote against him. It's just a thing.hillaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11115290007190070450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130600764018128962005-10-29T11:46:00.000-04:002005-10-29T11:46:00.000-04:00hillary,that speculation about Mark T. is really b...hillary,<BR/>that speculation about Mark T. is really beneath you. unless you have proof of that, it's well...hm, disappointing.<BR/>Mark is a great guy, and does indeed have very populist ideals, identical to Cathy's, pretty much. But the difference between Mark and Cathy is clear. Mark returns phone calls to everyone, Cathy has staff do it.<BR/>Mark shows up to help local candidates (like Becky Vaughn) not only in person for day long visits at a time, but during non-election (for him) years. He has led the State Senate as Lt. Gov., knows how it all works, has come up thru the ranks, worked hard and has used Ga. folks to grow himself up into a potential Governor. It's been his stated ambition for almost 15 years to become Governor.<BR/>And he has a lot of friends in low places, all over the state. If it comes down to the grass roots, I'm thinking Cathy is going to have a hard time kicking that snotty rich bitch aura in the minds of a lot of African Americans and working poor.<BR/>I'm not on the fence in the least on this one, y'all. My heart's with Mark, all the way.<BR/>And don't get me started on Cathy's shortcomings as Sec. of State, really... I won't be able to stop.<BR/>aquariusrizingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130424736207784222005-10-27T10:52:00.000-04:002005-10-27T10:52:00.000-04:00I'm not saying you have to. It's just something I ...I'm not saying you have to. It's just something I keep in mind occasionally. It's also not that our representative democracy has to align perfectly with the demographics of the country, but it could be a little better. I'm also not sure how it's a worse standard for choosing between two roughly equivalent candidates than who I'd rather have a beer with or who has better fashion sense or better image consultants.hillaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11115290007190070450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130414904324912892005-10-27T08:08:00.000-04:002005-10-27T08:08:00.000-04:00It doesn't mean men and women are different. It me...It doesn't mean men and women are different. It means women are underrepresented in government and, all things else being roughly equal (qualifications and such), I don't mind doing my part to help equalize the balance a little.<BR/><BR/>Didn't Taylor used to be a big cokehead?hillaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11115290007190070450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130377833922711342005-10-26T21:50:00.000-04:002005-10-26T21:50:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.MJ Athenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16913031700873240864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130371189110364702005-10-26T19:59:00.000-04:002005-10-26T19:59:00.000-04:00Well, you might as well flip a coin, then, if they...Well, you might as well flip a coin, then, if they are equal. If I said vote for Taylor because he's a man, I'd be accused of sexism. Voting for a woman because she's a woman means men and women are different, and we've been taught for years that that isn't true...<BR/><BR/>There's something creepy about Taylor, in my opinion...can't put my finger on it, though. Thank goodness we still have lots of time before the election. I'm hoping for some clarity before then, but I'm not holding my breath.<BR/><BR/>In my opinion, anyone who voluntarily runs for office sdhould be immediately disqualified on the basis of a lack of sanity. Being Governor, Senator/Congresscritter or President means, for the most part, that your main focus is to get reelected, but bending your will to the will of those more powerful than you, and almost never being able to make a difference (in a good way).Fishplatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06659287724786153421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130356973469586052005-10-26T16:02:00.000-04:002005-10-26T16:02:00.000-04:00No tongue in cheek. If they're roughly equivalent ...No tongue in cheek. If they're roughly equivalent on the issues (which they are, as far as I'm concerned), why not vote for the lady? You know, affirmative-action-style.<BR/><BR/>Taylor really drove me up the wall with all that hoo-ha about raising university tuition last year. How about some kind of realistic solution to ever-shrinking state funds, big guy?hillaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11115290007190070450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130355714761970892005-10-26T15:41:00.000-04:002005-10-26T15:41:00.000-04:00Oh, and I agree with Publius on Taylor. I'm no big...Oh, and I agree with Publius on Taylor. I'm no big fan of him, but he is much more geniune than folks think. I just haven't been a fan of him once he's been in office, that's all.<BR/><BR/>And, with regard to who is more electable, Cox is the more attractive candidate with her more conservative views and her appeal to working moms. But we see where being 'electable' has gotten the Democrats in recent years ...Jmachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13949705691074218937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130355569801750592005-10-26T15:39:00.000-04:002005-10-26T15:39:00.000-04:00I think you nailed it DiDDY. Baxter was very cramp...I think you nailed it DiDDY. Baxter was very cramped and had no business being a four-lane road, so that was common sense policy to switch it to three lanes.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure about Prince Avenue. There is ample space on that road. And, as someone noted earlier either here or at my blog, if you removed the parking slots from the sides of the road, you're bound to create ample additional room for driving and bike lanes.Jmachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13949705691074218937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130353188797973222005-10-26T14:59:00.000-04:002005-10-26T14:59:00.000-04:00if, as everyone seems to think, and as Baxter has ...if, as everyone seems to think, and as Baxter has shown, moving from 4 lanes to 3 lanes does not improve traffic efficiency, why are people in favor of it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130352013627044782005-10-26T14:40:00.000-04:002005-10-26T14:40:00.000-04:00an important point that most people seem to miss i...an important point that most people seem to miss in the argument about emergency vehicles vs. 3-laning on Prince is that the the road will still be the same width as before - they aren't talking about moving the curbs. This seems a totally bogus grasping at straws thing. Worse is any argument about hurting development - double-bogus! 15-yard penalty and loss of down.<BR/><BR/>I have to ask, why would any street-side retail establishment ever be in favor of having cars go past their store fronts faster? If I had a store front on a street, I'd definitely favor having cars go more slowly past my business so they could maybe read my signage and check me out.<BR/><BR/>I have to point out that streets are not only for cars. Well, I mean everybody understands that except the Georgia Department of Transportation morons. Cars must be accomodated but so must pedestrians, bicycles, horses, and anybody else with a need to get from one place to another by whatever legal means they choose. Long gone are the days when it was OK to cut across someone's private property to get where you are going so, the streets represent the only public avenue for conveyance of any nature. <BR/><BR/>Actually, when you get right down to it, this discussion, like almost all others involving the commission and the government in general, would not even be necessary if folks actually genuinely cared about anybody but themselves. Laws get passed when people stop behaving like their mommas taught them but, since the Golden Rule is kinda hard for the police to enforce...we brought this on ourselves and there's no way to deny it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130351080925393062005-10-26T14:24:00.000-04:002005-10-26T14:24:00.000-04:00How do you tell faux populism from real populism?M...How do you tell faux populism from real populism?<BR/><BR/>My two cents on this one: I wouldn't bet the farm that all of Taylor's rhetoric is faux populism. Having met both candidates briefly, I'll say that in my opinion, the Big Guy is not the real thing, but he's closer than folks may think. <BR/><BR/>I think I've probably ranted before about slick, consultant-driven campaigns, or perhaps a better way to put it would be slick DC-consultant-driven campaigns. I think Taylor is at least using some Southern folks to set strategy, whereas, just judging by outward appearances, Cathy is letting herself be directed from inside the Beltway. Plus the Emily's List rebuke kind of pissed me off.<BR/><BR/>I'd just like to see our local campaigns use some local talent. Also, I have yet to see anything out of the Cox campaign that I would describe as "grassroots." More like astroturf. They've got a blog that isn't updated particularly often, and is at least suspected of censorship, and that's about it.<BR/><BR/>I'm not saying that grassroots is the only way to go, but if you're going to run a consultant-driven marketing and media type campaign, don't waste your breath talking about how grassroots you are. It's kind of like Britney Spears prattling on about her indie roots.<BR/><BR/>I still think Cathy might be more electable, but as I mentioned in the post, I don't know, and neither does any other individual out there, including Cathy's pollster.Cufflink Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14800684128912206226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130349456467643712005-10-26T13:57:00.000-04:002005-10-26T13:57:00.000-04:00Thank you for reporting on my lack of response fro...Thank you for reporting on my lack of response from Cathy Cox. I still think it was a dumb thing to say and I'm surprised she has not been called on it by the media. I have actually spoken with several poll workers and they were surprised and not pleased by the comment. I'm afraid I can not vote for anyone this stupid.<BR/><BR/>On the emergency vehicle discussion: I was on Baxter when an ambulance tried to get through there. Both lanes were bumper to bumper and the turn lane was also occupied in several places. This was right after 5 p.m. The problem was that the cars in the turn lane had no where to go. The ambulance finally made it to an outside lane when someone pulled on the curb, took the sidewalk and finally got to the intersection where they went out of sight. It was a nightmare. I'd hate to see this happen to Prince Avenue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130348489596011802005-10-26T13:41:00.000-04:002005-10-26T13:41:00.000-04:00"At least Cox is a chick" I can't see if your to..."At least Cox is a chick" I can't see if your tongue is in your cheek, so I'll ask...is it?<BR/><BR/>As for emergency calls on Prince, seems to me an open center lane is preferable to two jammed lanes headed toward town. I used to drive a fire truck in emergency situations, and many people don't seem to know that they're supposed to yield, and if they do know, they don't know how....if the center turn lane is there, it's most likely empty, whereas durnig rush hour you are headed over into a lane that's against you.<BR/><BR/>Most of the time, though, I'd wager that the road will be clear enough that traffic won't be an impediment for the EMTs. My experience has been that outside of rush hour, there isn't all that much traffic on Prince. Does anyone know of a traffic count that's broken down by time?Fishplatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06659287724786153421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130346342640062632005-10-26T13:05:00.000-04:002005-10-26T13:05:00.000-04:00Yep. I don't really like either of them, but at le...Yep. I don't really like either of them, but at least Cox is a chick. And she doesn't work the faux-populism angle quite as much.hillaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11115290007190070450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15887184.post-1130344753224397422005-10-26T12:39:00.000-04:002005-10-26T12:39:00.000-04:00Jordan is all about a yes on that issue, and no on...Jordan is all about a yes on that issue, and no one knows about Hoard or Maxwell ... particularly Maxwell. Give the man credit, he's the one commissioner I can't pin down as far as knowing where he stands from issue to issue (and I don't mean that in a condescending way, but in a play-the-cards-close-to-the-chest kinda way). The rest of your assessment is dead-on Corleone (lo and behold, we agree on something :) ).<BR/><BR/>And that's an excellent point about Prince Avenue. I'm still not a fan of three-laning it. It could hinder development out there and, regardless of what Pete says, can overload Boulevard.<BR/><BR/>My jury's still out on Cox. I've never really been a huge Taylor fan, but it isn't like I'm all fired up for Cox either. Considering I won't back Perdue, it's one of those two ... and I lean toward Cox as of now.Jmachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13949705691074218937noreply@blogger.com